2020-12-09 · Episode 18

Go Ask A Trader · Episode 18

10 chapters
1:08:04

The episode explores various trading strategies, emphasizing exit strategies, checkpoint times, and maximum loss levels. It highlights the risks of holding positions overnight, the importance of position sizing, and challenges during extreme market movements like flash crashes. The discussion covers risk awareness, avoiding catastrophic losses, and the need for disciplined trading. It also delves into risk management, including exit loss triggers, early exits, and the importance of trading discipline. The bearish butterfly strategy is introduced, focusing on setup, position sizing, and market analysis, with an emphasis on strategic planning and execution. A trade execution example is reviewed, showing a $4,900 loss with a maximum loss of $15,000, and the importance of understanding market behavior and adapting strategies based on market types. The role of implied volatility in adjusting trade wings is discussed, along with the necessity of back testing and experimentation. The episode also touches on trading philosophy, the balance between process and outcomes, and the dangers of flawed strategies and self-justification. It concludes with a warning about trading loops and the importance of distinguishing facts from beliefs in decision-making processes.

01 0:00Introduction, Disclaimer, and Risk Awareness

The webinar begins with an introduction and disclaimer, emphasizing that the content is for educational purposes only and not for specific trade recommendations. It highlights the substantial risks involved in trading options and warns that presented trades are hypothetical or simulated, not reflecting live results.

IntroductionDisclaimerEducational PurposeRisk DisclaimerTrading OptionsHypothetical Trades
02 0:39Trading Strategies, Risk Management, and Market Behavior

The webinar discusses various trading strategies, including exit strategies, checkpoint times, and maximum loss levels. It covers the risks of holding positions overnight, the importance of position sizing, and challenges in executing trades during extreme market movements such as flash crashes. The speaker also emphasizes the need for risk awareness and avoiding catastrophic losses.

Q&AForum InstructionsExit strategyTrading philosophyMarket monitoringTrading strategy
03 14:49Risk Management and Trading Discipline

The chapter covers risk management strategies, including exit strategies, loss triggers, and the drawbacks and benefits of early exits. It also discusses market uncertainty, trading challenges, and the importance of trading discipline and professional advice.

Risk ManagementExit StrategiesEarly ExitsMarket UncertaintyTrading challengesTrading discipline
04 21:56Bearish Butterfly Trade Strategy and Execution

The chapter introduces the bearish butterfly trade strategy, including setup, position sizing, and market analysis. It discusses market moves, ad points, rolls, position calculations, and roll triggers, emphasizing the importance of strategic planning and execution.

Bearish butterflyPosition sizingDisaster planningTrade setupSoftware usageMarket Move
05 29:31Trade Execution, Market Movement, and Strategy Review

The trader discusses a trade that resulted in a $4,900 loss with a maximum loss of $15,000, mentioning rolling up the lower and upper sides of a trade and the market's significant price movement. They also review the bearish butterfly strategy for January, noting that there will be no further roll until 1925 and that this is the end of the day's trading. The trader cautions against expecting to make money on every trade cycle, emphasizing that strategies are not meant to be used every cycle and are designed to provide different edges in the market with varying entry, exit, and scaling mechanisms.

Trade executionMarket movementRisk managementStrategy review
06 31:14Strategy Variety, Market Adaptation, and Trading Logic

The trader explains that strategies are designed to give different edges in the market with varying entry, exit, and scaling mechanisms, helping traders understand how they behave in different market environments and IV situations. They emphasize the importance of recognizing market behavior and applying proper entry techniques as one begins to learn trading. The speaker also discusses the need to understand a trading strategy and how it interacts with the marketplace before moving on to more advanced techniques. They talk about the progression from using multiple strategies to adapting strategies based on market types, which is considered an advancement in trading. As traders advance, strategies tend to fade into the background, and traders begin to focus on the market environment and entry positioning. The speaker discusses the challenges of seeking a trade that wins every time, noting

Strategy varietyMarket adaptationIV situationsMarket behaviorEntry techniquesLearning process
07 44:16Implied Volatility and Wing Width Adjustments

The speaker discusses how adjusting the wings of a trade based on implied volatility shifts can impact the outcome. Narrowing the wings during expected price movement reduces sensitivity to implied volatility, avoiding exit loss triggers. Wider wings can lead to significant losses if volatility doesn't react as expected. The importance of back testing and experimentation to understand when to widen or narrow wings is emphasized, with a warning against making arbitrary changes to trading strategies without re-evaluating the entire approach.

Implied VolatilityWing Width AdjustmentsExit Loss TriggersBack TestingStrategy ExperimentationStrategy Adjustments
08 46:03Trading Philosophy and Process

The speaker introduces a message about the difficulty of trading for outcomes versus process, reflecting on the learning process and unexpected outcomes. They discuss the attraction to trading, values and motivation, and the distinction between means and ends. The speaker emphasizes the importance of developing and following effective trading processes that balance risk, reward, and probabilities. They also discuss the role of luck, performance judgment, and the consequences of poor judgment in trading. Analogies from sales to trading are drawn, highlighting the risks of deviating from the process and the importance of focusing on the process rather than outcomes.

Trading PhilosophyOutcomes vs. ProcessAnonymous MessageLearning processUnexpected outcomesMotivation for trading
09 59:04The Trader's Flawed Strategy and Self-Justification

A trader's initial success due to not following his downside adjustment strategy and risk limits leads to self-congratulation and belief in a flawed strategy. Despite losing, he rationalizes his actions, reinforcing cognitive distortions and poor risk management practices.

Trading strategyRisk managementSelf-congratulationCognitive distortionSelf-justification
10 1:01:59Recognizing Trading Loops and the Role of Beliefs

The speaker warns about being stuck in a trading loop that doesn't lead to profit and emphasizes the importance of monitoring statements to distinguish between facts and beliefs. The discussion explores how beliefs, often reinforced by cognitive distortions, shape behavior and decision-making, with a focus on the subconscious mind's role in seeking pleasure and avoiding pain.

Trading loopFinancial lossWarningMonitoring statementsFacts vs. beliefsBeliefs vs. facts