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Trading Earnings in a LOW VOL Market | 04.16| One Lucky Dog LIVE!

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S&P 500 shorting the S&P 500 due to its upward movement

The speaker decided to short the S&P 500 due to its upward movement, indicating a belief that the market would reverse. This decision was based on the speaker's observation of the market's behavior and their personal trading strategy. The speaker also mentioned selling call spreads in the Qs and other instruments, suggesting a diversified approach to shorting the market.

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Strategyshorting the S&P 500 due to its upward movement
Assetindex
Expirationnot specified
Time horizonnot specified
Entry / triggermarket moving upward
Target / exitnot specified
Invalidation / stopnot specified
SpeakerScott
Risks
  • Market can continue to move upward
  • Leverage can increase potential losses
  • Market volatility can lead to unexpected price movements
Trade idea

NFLX put selling

The speaker suggests that during earnings cycles with low volatility, selling puts on stocks like Netflix (NFLX) can be a profitable strategy. The implied moves are expected to be around 6-7%, and the puts are relatively cheap due to the low volatility environment. The speaker emphasizes that the key is to trade outside the expected move, as trading inside the expected move is less profitable. The risk is increased if there is a market shock, as the risk is not adequately priced into the options.

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Strategyput selling
Assetequity
Expirationunknown
Time horizonEarnings event
Entry / triggerEarnings cycle with low baseline volatility
Target / exitImplied move of 6-7%
Invalidation / stopMarket shock or significant move beyond expected range
SpeakerUnknown
Structure / legs
  • 98 puts
  • 99 puts
Risks
  • Market shock
  • Significant move beyond expected range
  • Low volatility environment may not persist
Trade idea

NFLX short strangle

The speaker suggests adjusting a short strangle position to be outside or at the expected move to increase the statistical chance of success. They emphasize that if the position would not be opened today with the current information, it should be adjusted or covered. The strategy involves re-centering the strikes around the expected move, either by moving them outside or at the expected move, and skewing the position slightly for delta exposure.

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Strategyshort strangle
Assetequity
ExpirationMay
Time horizonshort-term (earnings season)
Entry / triggerbefore earnings announcement
Target / exittwo times the expected move
Invalidation / stopif the stock moves within the expected move range
Speakerunknown
Structure / legs
  • put
  • call
Risks
  • Volatility spikes
  • Unexpected earnings results
  • Market gaps
Trade idea

AAPL straddle

If you're going to trade the one-day option, that's completely different. If you have an open position on, it's going to be in May. So, you go to at least the expected move. I like to go to two times the expected move or one and a half times at a minimum. Knowing that earnings are on the horizon, would you back away from opening a new trade in that particular underlying prior to earnings? If you're going to put a trade on now and Apple is 2 weeks from today, you know, so you're going to look at 43 days, you know, you can go out to the 43 day, put your trade on, and then come 2 weeks from today, the day before earnings, as you said, modify as need be. So, if the stock has, you know, if the position's come in, you might consider taking it off and putting on something else. You know, if you like the position, from my perspective, it'd be the same thing. Move it to adjust it so that you're at whatever the, you know, the strikes from a standard deviation standpoint you want.

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Strategystraddle
Assetequity
Expiration2 weeks from earnings
Time horizon2 weeks
Entry / trigger2 weeks before earnings
Target / exit2 times the expected move
Invalidation / stopAdjust as needed before earnings
SpeakerUnknown
Risks
  • Volatility may increase before earnings
  • Need to adjust position as earnings approach
Trade idea

Trade idea Strangle selling

Despite low volatility, selling strangles into earnings can still be a viable strategy. While low volatility reduces the potential premium, it does not change the probability of profit. The key is to recognize that the edge is still present, albeit with reduced reward potential. The market remains efficient, and the probability of profit remains the same, making it a binary event with clear risk-reward parameters.

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StrategyStrangle selling
Time horizonShort-term
Entry / triggerLow volatility environment
Invalidation / stopMarket moves against the trade
SpeakerUnknown
Risks
  • Market moves against the trade
  • Volatility spikes
  • Liquidity issues
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NFLX sell puts

The speaker suggests selling puts on Netflix (NFLX) as a strategy for the earnings cycle, given the improved liquidity and market conditions. The rationale is that the probability of profit remains consistent, but the potential reward is higher in high volatility. The speaker also mentions adjusting position sizes based on volatility levels and avoiding vertical spreads due to the lack of liquidity in the past.

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Strategysell puts
Assetequity
Expirationearnings date
Time horizonshort-term
Entry / triggerif the stock is bullish
Target / exitprofit from the premium
Invalidation / stopif the stock moves below the put strike price
SpeakerScott
Structure / legs
  • sell puts
Risks
  • significant loss if the stock moves against the position
  • limited liquidity in certain strike prices
Trade idea

Trade idea Put Ratio Spreads or Naked Puts

The speaker suggests that in a bullish market environment, particularly at record highs, the probability of profit is higher for in-the-money call spreads. They also mention using put ratio spreads or naked puts as strategies, indicating a preference for strategies that benefit from upward movement. The speaker's thesis is based on the expectation that the market will continue to move upward, which aligns with the idea of buying in-the-money call spreads.

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StrategyPut Ratio Spreads or Naked Puts
Time horizonShort-term, with positions typically closed before expiration.
Entry / triggerWhen the market is expected to move upward, particularly at record highs.
Invalidation / stopIf the market moves significantly downward or if the trade is not executed as planned.
SpeakerThe speaker
Risks
  • Market movement against the trade direction
  • Volatility changes affecting the probability of profit
  • Execution risks if the trade is not properly managed

Insights

Insight

Market Volatility and Trading Strategy

The speaker discusses the market's volatility and the importance of adapting trading strategies based on market conditions. They mention their initial plan to go long on the S&P and Nasdaq, but then decided to go short due to the market's upward movement. This highlights the need for flexibility in trading strategies and the importance of monitoring market trends and expiration dates. The speaker also notes the impact of earnings reports on stock prices, suggesting that traders should be cautious and consider historical performance when making trades.

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Applicable when
  • Market trends
  • Earnings reports
  • Expiration dates
Limitations
  • The speaker's strategy is based on personal experience and may not be universally applicable
  • The market can change rapidly, making past performance an unreliable indicator for future outcomes
Insight

Navigating Earnings in Low Volatility

The speaker discusses how their trading approach changes during earnings season, particularly in low volatility environments. They note that low volatility makes them nervous, as it reduces the opportunities for selling options like calls and puts. In contrast, high volatility environments offer more opportunities for options trading. The speaker emphasizes that navigating earnings in low volatility requires a different strategy compared to high volatility.

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Applicable when
  • low volatility environments
  • earnings season
Limitations
  • The speaker's strategy may not apply universally to all traders or market conditions
Insight

Earnings Impact on Market

Earnings reports have minimal impact on the overall market, with earnings surprises being almost perfectly random over the past 25 years. The market tends to return to the mean after earnings surprises, with an equal distribution of upside and downside surprises. This suggests that individual earnings reports are unlikely to cause significant market movements unless they are from major companies with outlier results.

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Applicable when
  • long-term market trends
  • earnings season
Limitations
  • Does not account for exceptional cases like major corporate events or sector-specific shocks
  • Does not consider short-term volatility or liquidity effects
Insight

Negotiating from strength

Negotiating from strength involves understanding one's own value and how it contributes to an organization. This includes recognizing the cost of training or developing specific skills, which can be a significant factor in determining one's worth. The speaker emphasizes that failing to negotiate from strength reduces the chances of achieving desired outcomes, and that asking for what one wants is essential, as it is not seen as a negative action.

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Applicable when
  • employee compensation discussions
  • negotiation strategies
Limitations
  • Requires self-awareness of one's value
  • May not apply in all organizational contexts
Insight

Negotiation from Strength

Negotiation should be approached from a position of strength, where one knows their value to the entity they are negotiating with. The speaker emphasizes that not asking for what one deserves can result in missed opportunities, and that it is important to be reasonable and flexible in the amount requested and the timing of the request. People respect reasonableness, and it is important to avoid drawing a line in the sand during negotiations.

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Applicable when
  • negotiation scenarios
  • salary discussions
  • business negotiations
Limitations
  • The advice assumes that the individual has a clear understanding of their value and the market conditions.
  • It may not apply in situations where the other party has significantly more leverage or where the negotiation is not about compensation but other terms.
Insight

Avoid Comparing in Negotiations

In negotiations, especially regarding compensation, avoid bringing up what others are making or what you think others are making. This is because it can lead to unnecessary comparisons and may not be relevant to the current situation. Instead, focus on your own value and what you bring to the table. If you have a specific number that you believe you are worth, you can bring it up, but it should be done in a way that does not involve comparing yourself to others.

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Applicable when
  • compensation discussions
  • salary negotiations
Limitations
  • It may not be applicable in all negotiation contexts, especially where market rates are highly competitive or where the other party is explicitly asking for comparisons.
Insight

Leverage through Over-Delivering

To gain more leverage, individuals should be open to expanding their role and over-deliver by working harder than others. This approach increases one's value and influence, as demonstrated by the speaker's emphasis on pushing superstars and helping potential performers reach their full capacity. The key mechanism is demonstrating exceptional effort and commitment, which can lead to greater recognition and rewards.

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Applicable when
  • Individuals seeking career advancement
  • Employees aiming to increase compensation
Limitations
  • Over-delivering may not always result in immediate rewards
  • Requires consistent effort and alignment with organizational goals
Insight

Earnings Trading in Low Volatility Environments

Earnings trades become more attractive in low volatility environments due to the combination of lower baseline volatility and the potential for earnings-related volatility. The speaker explains that when volatility is high, earnings trades offer a higher risk-reward ratio because of the elevated premium. However, when volatility drops, the baseline premium is lower, and the added earnings volatility can create opportunities for trades like selling puts or buying calls. The key is to trade outside the expected move, as trading inside the expected move is less profitable. The speaker also notes that while low volatility reduces the expected move, it can increase risk if there is a market shock, as the risk is not adequately priced into the options.

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Applicable when
  • low_volatility
  • earnings_season
Limitations
  • Market shocks can increase risk in low volatility environments
  • Trading inside the expected move is less profitable
Insight

Earnings Trading Strategy

Earnings trades are risky due to high volatility and uncertain outcomes. The speaker suggests reducing position size and lowering expectations to mitigate risk. They emphasize that earnings plays are more about instant gratification and engagement rather than substantial profit. The key takeaway is to adjust positions to be outside or at the expected move, which increases the statistical chance of success.

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Applicable when
  • earnings season
  • high volatility stocks
Limitations
  • Requires accurate expected move estimation
  • Not suitable for all traders due to risk tolerance differences
Insight

Volatility Management in Low Volatility Periods

In periods of low volatility, traders should extend the duration of their trades to expiration to synthetically increase volatility. This approach allows for capturing higher volatility without directly increasing risk. Conversely, in high volatility periods, traders should shorten the duration of their trades. This strategy is particularly relevant for premium sellers and is a key rule for managing volatility exposure.

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Applicable when
  • low_volatility_periods
  • premium_selling
Limitations
  • Does not apply in high volatility environments
  • Requires understanding of synthetic volatility concepts
Insight

Probability of Profit on Call Spreads

The probability of profit on a call spread is calculated by dividing the credit received by the width of the strikes. For example, on a $5 wide spread, collecting $2 results in a 60% probability of profit, while collecting $1 results in an 80% probability. This method is an exact science and relies on straightforward math, with no wiggle room. The probability of profit is a key factor in defined risk trades, as it is easy to calculate and provides clarity for traders.

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Applicable when
  • defined risk trades
  • call spreads
  • probability of profit
Limitations
  • Depends on liquidity and market conditions
  • Assumes fair pricing for the spread
Insight

Volatility and Profit Potential

Low volatility does not change the probability of profit but affects the amount of money that can be made. High volatility allows for higher potential profits, while low volatility limits the potential gains. This distinction is crucial for traders when deciding on risk-reward trade-offs.

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Applicable when
  • trading strategies
  • risk management
Limitations
  • Assumes consistent market behavior
  • Does not account for unexpected events or market shifts
Insight

Probability of Profit in Call Spreads

The probability of profit in a debit call spread depends on the strike prices chosen. In-the-money call spreads have a higher probability of profit, while out-of-the-money call spreads have a lower probability. The speaker explains that buying an in-the-money call spread, such as Netflix's 106s and 109s, provides a statistically high probability of profit, whereas an out-of-the-money spread would result in a negative probability of profit.

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Applicable when
  • In-the-money call spreads
  • Out-of-the-money call spreads
Limitations
  • The probability of profit is not guaranteed and depends on market movement and volatility.
  • The speaker's explanation is based on a specific example and may not apply universally.

Q&A

Q&A

What is the speaker's strategy for the market?

The speaker's strategy involves shorting the market due to its upward movement, as well as selling call spreads in the Qs and other instruments. They also mention the possibility of shorting stocks like Netflix based on historical performance.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker's strategy is to short the market due to its upward movement, as well as selling call spreads in the Qs and other instruments. They also mention the possibility of shorting stocks like Netflix based on historical performance.
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Will you trade any differently during earnings?

The speaker acknowledges that their trading approach changes during earnings season, particularly in low volatility environments. They note that low volatility makes them nervous, as it reduces the opportunities for selling options like calls and puts. In contrast, high volatility environments offer more opportunities for options trading.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker's strategy changes based on volatility levels during earnings season, with a focus on options trading in high volatility environments.
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Do you trade differently during earning season?

The speaker states that they do not adjust their trading strategy during earnings season. They explain that most earnings reports do not significantly impact the market, and only major companies with outlier results can cause market movements. Therefore, they do not change their approach based on the earnings season.

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Actionable takeawayEarnings season does not necessitate a change in trading strategy for most stocks, as the market typically returns to the mean after earnings surprises.
Q&A

What makes you uncomfortable about compensation discussions?

The speaker finds compensation discussions uncomfortable because not everyone perceives what they consider fair as fair. They emphasize the importance of being fair and open to discussion but also highlight the challenges of aligning perspectives.

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Actionable takeawayCompensation discussions require understanding and aligning on what is fair, which can be challenging due to differing perspectives.
Q&A

What is the advice regarding asking for more in a negotiation?

The speaker advises that one should ask for what they deserve, as not asking can result in missed opportunities. They emphasize the importance of being reasonable and flexible in the amount requested and the timing of the request, while avoiding drawing a line in the sand.

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Actionable takeawayNegotiate from strength, be reasonable, and avoid rigid demands.
Q&A

How does a worker get more leverage as an employee to extract a larger compensation?

A worker can gain more leverage by proving their worth to the employer. This involves demonstrating that they are more valuable than others, either through performance, skills, or unique contributions. The key is to focus on one's own value rather than comparing to others.

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Actionable takeawayProve your value through performance and skills to increase your leverage in salary negotiations.
Q&A

Does anybody ever fully get what they think they deserve or what they want?

The speaker suggests that while some people may feel they are fully compensated, it is rare for individuals to get everything they want. They emphasize that expectations should be realistic and that the process often involves multiple attempts or a long time. The speaker also notes that if someone is not getting what they want, it may be due to the company's limitations or a message that the individual should look elsewhere.

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Actionable takeawayExpectations should be realistic, and the process of achieving desired outcomes often involves persistence and adaptability.
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Are earnings trades more risky or less risky when volatility drops?

Earnings trades are less risky when volatility drops because the expected move is smaller. However, they can be more risky if there is a market shock, as the risk is not adequately priced into the options.

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Actionable takeawayEarnings trades in low volatility environments have lower expected moves but can be riskier if there is a market shock.
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Should I hold an open position through earnings?

The speaker advises that if you would not open the position today with the current information, you should adjust or cover it. If you would open it, you should hold it but re-center the strikes around the expected move. The key is to adjust the position to be outside or at the expected move to increase the statistical chance of success.

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Actionable takeawayAdjust positions to be outside or at the expected move if holding through earnings.
Q&A

Would it make sense to buy a straddle if selling premium doesn't make sense?

No, it never makes sense to buy the straddle. Don't you know, I mean, if you're ever going to buy a straddle, then buy it for earnings because it is a binary play if that's really what you want. But, no, we don't flip the cards over. This isn't like, 'Hey, if I don't want to sell it, then should I buy it?' That's not the same thing. Just because I don't want to sell it does not mean I should buy it.

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Actionable takeawayBuying a straddle is not a viable alternative to selling premium if the latter is not profitable. It is only recommended for earnings events as a binary play.
Q&A

How do you calculate the probability of profit on a call spread?

The probability of profit on a call spread is calculated by dividing the credit received by the width of the strikes. For example, on a $5 wide spread, collecting $2 results in a 60% probability of profit, while collecting $1 results in an 80% probability. This method is an exact science and relies on straightforward math.

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Actionable takeawayThe probability of profit on a call spread is a straightforward calculation that provides traders with clear risk-reward parameters.
Q&A

What strategies would you use to trade this earnings cycle?

The speaker suggests selling naked puts as a favorite strategy for earnings, especially in low volatility environments. They also mention using ratio spreads and strangles depending on volatility levels and market conditions.

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Actionable takeawaySelling naked puts is recommended for earnings cycles, particularly when volatility is low, as it allows for consistent profit potential while managing risk.
Q&A

Does purchasing a debit call spread have a negative probability of profit?

The probability of profit in a debit call spread depends on the strike prices chosen. In-the-money call spreads have a higher probability of profit, while out-of-the-money call spreads have a lower probability. The speaker explains that buying an in-the-money call spread, such as Netflix's 106s and 109s, provides a statistically high probability of profit, whereas an out-of-the-money spread would result in a negative probability of profit.

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Actionable takeawayThe probability of profit in a debit call spread is influenced by the strike prices selected. In-the-money spreads generally offer a higher probability of profit, while out-of-the-money spreads may have a lower probability.