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Where Would This Market Be Without AI STOCKS? | 6.23 | One Lucky Dog LIVE!

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MU earnings trade

The speaker is adjusting the strike prices for a Micron (MU) earnings trade, expecting a move of around 10 to 12%. The speaker believes that the increased volatility today makes earnings trades more favorable, as the pop in volatility can lead to better outcomes. The trade is based on the expectation that the stock will move up by the expected amount, with the strike prices adjusted to reflect this. The risks include the possibility that the stock does not move as expected, which could result in a loss.

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Strategyearnings trade
Assetstock
Expirationtomorrow
Time horizonshort-term
Entry / triggeradjust everything $100 down
Target / exit100 and 140
Invalidation / stopif the expected move does not materialize
SpeakerScott
Structure / legs
  • 1405 14 15 call
  • 975 965 call
Risks
  • the stock may not move as expected
  • volatility may not continue at the current level
  • the earnings report may be disappointing
Trade idea

NFLX Put Spread

The speaker is short a put spread on Netflix, selling the August 70 put for $3.55, expecting the stock to remain below this strike. The strategy is based on the belief that Netflix is in a downtrend following earnings reports, and the put spread allows for profit from the premium while limiting risk. The speaker also mentions a call diagonal spread, indicating a broader strategy of using options to capitalize on market movements.

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StrategyPut Spread
AssetEquity
ExpirationAugust
Time horizonUntil expiration
Entry / triggerStock is trading below the short put strike
Target / exitProfit from the premium received
Invalidation / stopIf the stock rises above the short put strike
SpeakerTom
Structure / legs
  • Put at 70 strike
  • Put at 75 strike
Risks
  • If the stock rises above the short put strike
  • Market volatility could impact the trade
Trade idea

Trade idea Buy oil

The speaker suggests buying oil, indicating a bullish outlook on the oil market. The reasoning is based on the belief that oil is a good investment opportunity at the current time, despite the uncertainty surrounding future market conditions. The speaker also mentions selling oil sell puts as a potential strategy, but this is not explicitly stated as a trade idea.

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StrategyBuy oil
Entry / triggerBuy some oil here
SpeakerSpeaker
Risks
  • Market volatility
  • Potential for price decline
  • Uncertainty in future demand for oil
Trade idea

SPACEX Butterfly spread

The speaker suggests that a butterfly spread on SpaceX could be constructed with an expected move of $42. The strategy involves setting the width of the strikes based on the expected move, with the put side being adjusted more aggressively if the trader is bullish. The speaker also notes that the volatility in SpaceX is still relatively high, making the butterfly spread potentially more expensive. The thesis is based on the expected move and the volatility levels, with the potential for profit if the stock moves within the expected range.

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StrategyButterfly spread
Assetequity
ExpirationAugust
Time horizonShort-term
Entry / triggerExpected move of $42
Target / exit42 higher
Invalidation / stopIf the expected move is not realized
SpeakerScott
Structure / legs
  • put
  • call
Risks
  • Volatility could lead to higher costs
  • The expected move may not materialize
  • Liquidity issues in the options market
Trade idea

MU trading vehicle

The speaker views Micron (MU) as a great trading vehicle due to its high volatility and range-bound behavior. The speaker suggests that the market is ignoring risks and may eventually decline significantly, making MU a potential short-term trading opportunity. The speaker also notes that the evaluations of MU and other stocks like SanDisk are considered silly and stupid, indicating a potential overvaluation.

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Strategytrading vehicle
Assetstock
Time horizonshort-term
Entry / triggerMarket is in a range-bound state with high volatility.
Target / exit200 to 210
Invalidation / stopMarket breaks out of the range or shows signs of a sustained trend.
Speakerspeaker
Risks
  • Market may not follow the expected pattern.
  • Volatility could lead to significant losses if the trade goes against the position.

Insights

Insight

Market Rotation and Volatility

The speaker discusses a market rotation where certain stocks, such as Apple, Amazon, and Meta, were performing well despite an overall market downturn. This indicates a shift in investor sentiment and capital allocation. The speaker also highlights increased volatility, noting that the volatility index rose to over 20.5, suggesting heightened uncertainty and potential for further market swings. This insight is applicable in markets where there is a noticeable shift in sector performance and increased volatility, but it is limited by the fact that it is based on a specific time period and may not be indicative of long-term trends.

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Applicable when
  • market rotation
  • increased volatility
Limitations
  • based on specific time period
  • not indicative of long-term trends
Insight

Expected Moves and Market Volatility

The speaker discusses the expected move of a stock, suggesting a potential 10-12% movement. This highlights the importance of anticipating market volatility and understanding the factors that can drive significant price changes, such as earnings reports. The practical implication is that traders should be prepared for large swings and consider the timing of such events when making trading decisions.

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Applicable when
  • Earnings reports
  • Market expectations
Limitations
  • Expected moves are not guaranteed
  • Market conditions can change rapidly
Insight

AI Growth Dependency

The market's growth is increasingly dependent on AI-related spending, similar to the dot com era's growth dependency on internet-related spending. However, the size of companies involved differs, and the situation is not a direct parallel. The discussion highlights the potential risks of over-reliance on AI for continued growth, with caution against repeating past mistakes.

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Applicable when
  • AI-related spending
  • market growth
  • dot com era parallels
Limitations
  • Size of companies differs
  • Not a direct parallel
  • Uncertainty about future outcomes
Insight

Short Fund Construction in Different Market Environments

Building a short fund today would involve a mix of stocks, options, and futures, similar to the approach taken in the past. However, the current market environment includes ETFs, which were not available during the 1999-2000 period. The original short fund was 100% in S&P 500 index positions, with a focus on index options and futures, and no use of equities. The approach today would likely incorporate more diversified instruments and leverage the availability of ETFs for broader market exposure.

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Applicable when
  • availability of ETFs
  • market environment in 1999-2000
Limitations
  • historical context may not apply directly to current markets
  • lack of specific details on current market conditions or instruments used in modern short funds
Insight

Market Growth and AI Spending Dependency

The market's growth has become increasingly dependent on AI-related spending, with significant trillions of dollars being passed between companies. This dependency has led to a frothy market environment, where AI stocks and related sectors are heavily influenced by speculative spending. However, the speaker argues that AI itself is here to stay and will continue to improve, but the current spending spree may be unsustainable. The market's current state is seen as being completely driven by AI, with the potential for a pullback if any company underperforms or guides conservatively.

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Applicable when
  • AI spending
  • market growth
  • speculative trading
Limitations
  • The potential for a pullback is speculative and not guaranteed
  • The market's dependence on AI spending may change with technological or economic shifts
Insight

AI Spending and Market Valuation

The speaker discusses the overvaluation of AI stocks, suggesting that the market has become too dependent on AI spending and that the pricing has gotten ahead of the fundamentals. The speaker compares this situation to the internet bubble, emphasizing that while AI is expected to continue growing, the current valuations may not be sustainable. The applicable conditions include a market environment where AI spending is high and valuations are inflated, while the limitations include the potential for a correction if spending does not meet expectations.

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Applicable when
  • high AI spending
  • inflated valuations
Limitations
  • potential for correction if spending does not meet expectations
  • market volatility and uncertainty in AI adoption rates
Insight

Trading Strategy Based on Market Cycles

The speaker suggests that identifying shorter market cycles is crucial for effective trading. They emphasize that certain stocks, like Netflix, have shown a pattern of decline after earnings reports, indicating a potential opportunity for selling puts or spreads. This strategy relies on recognizing these cycles and acting accordingly.

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Applicable when
  • Identifiable market cycles
  • Earnings report patterns
Limitations
  • Market conditions can change rapidly
  • Not all stocks exhibit consistent patterns
Insight

Market History Repeats Itself

The market tends to repeat historical patterns, but the context and nature of the mistakes differ. While the mistakes of the dot-com era may not be exactly repeated, the underlying cyclical nature of market behavior suggests that similar issues will arise in different forms. This repetition is due to the cyclical nature of human behavior and systemic issues that persist across different eras.

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Applicable when
  • market cycles
  • historical patterns
Limitations
  • The nature of the mistakes may change significantly over time
  • The context of the market and economic environment can alter the outcomes of similar events
Insight

Market Volatility and Rapid Technological Change

The transcript highlights the rapid pace of market changes and the potential for technological advancements to create new opportunities and challenges. It emphasizes that markets move quickly, and what was once considered valuable can become obsolete in a short time. This suggests that investors must remain agile and adaptable, as the value of assets can shift dramatically due to technological progress.

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Applicable when
  • technological advancements
  • market volatility
Limitations
  • The transcript does not provide specific examples of how to adapt to these changes in practice.
Insight

AI Infrastructure Investment Risks

The speaker suggests that AI infrastructure investments may face similar challenges to the dot-com bubble, where many companies lacked viable business models and ultimately failed. This implies that current AI infrastructure plays could be overpriced, and investors should be cautious about potential overvaluation and the risk of companies failing to deliver on promises. The applicable conditions include the current state of AI development and the broader market sentiment towards technological innovation. Limitations include the uncertainty of future AI adoption and the potential for rapid technological changes that could render current infrastructure obsolete.

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Applicable when
  • AI development
  • infrastructure investment
  • market sentiment towards technology
Limitations
  • Uncertainty of future AI adoption
  • Rapid technological changes
  • Potential overvaluation of current infrastructure plays
Insight

Market Ignoring Risk

The market may be ignoring traditionally considered risks, such as geopolitical or macroeconomic factors. This could indicate a period of irrationality where markets remain irrational longer than expected. However, there is also a possibility that the market is reacting to stronger underlying factors that are not yet fully realized.

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Applicable when
  • Market irrationality
  • Economic uncertainty
Limitations
  • Uncertainty about the true underlying factors affecting the market
  • Potential for market correction if risks materialize
Insight

Market Behavior and Investor Psychology

The transcript highlights the irrationality of market behavior and investor psychology, suggesting that markets often reflect people's desire to believe in continued growth despite underlying structural issues. The speaker argues that the market's strength is often perceived as stronger than it actually is, and the longer this perception persists, the more significant the potential downturn could be. This insight is applicable in markets where sentiment is overly optimistic, and the practical implication is that investors should remain cautious and not solely rely on market sentiment for decision-making.

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Applicable when
  • overly optimistic market sentiment
  • extended periods of market strength
Limitations
  • Does not account for macroeconomic fundamentals
  • May not apply in all market regimes
Insight

Market Behavior and Risk Ignorance

The speaker suggests that the market is ignoring risks and may eventually decline significantly. This is based on the observation that despite inflation worries and other economic factors, the market continues to move in a seemingly irrational manner. The speaker also notes that the market has historically shown similar behavior, indicating a recurring pattern of risk ignorance.

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Applicable when
  • market volatility
  • economic uncertainty
Limitations
  • The speaker's prediction is speculative and not based on concrete data or analysis.
  • Market behavior can change due to unforeseen events or shifts in investor sentiment.
Insight

Crypto Distribution and Spending Strategy

The speaker mentions that participants will receive crypto rewards, with a value of 62.4, and advises not to spend it all in one place. This suggests a strategy of diversifying crypto usage to avoid overexposure to any single asset or market. The practical implication is to manage crypto holdings strategically to maximize utility and minimize risk.

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Applicable when
  • crypto distribution
  • reward allocation
Limitations
  • No specific market conditions or timeframes are mentioned for the strategy.

Q&A

Q&A

What is the speaker's opinion on the current market situation?

The speaker believes the market is in a state of significant decline, with a notable drop in prices. They suggest that the market is undergoing a rotation, where certain stocks are performing well despite the overall downturn. The speaker also expresses concern about the potential for a crash, citing increased volatility and the behavior of commodities like oil and gold.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker's opinion is that the market is in a downturn with a rotation in performance among stocks, and there is a risk of a crash due to increased volatility and the behavior of commodities.
Q&A

What is the expected move for the stock?

The speaker mentions an expected move of 10-12% for the stock, based on market conditions and prior performance.

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Actionable takeawayTraders should be aware of potential large price swings and consider the timing of such events when making trading decisions.
Q&A

Has the market growth become too dependent on AI-related spending for continued growth?

The market's growth is increasingly dependent on AI-related spending, similar to the dot com era's growth dependency on internet-related spending. However, the size of companies involved differs, and the situation is not a direct parallel. The discussion highlights the potential risks of over-reliance on AI for continued growth, with caution against repeating past mistakes.

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Actionable takeawayThe market's growth is increasingly dependent on AI-related spending, but there are risks of over-reliance and potential repetition of past mistakes.
Q&A

If you were to build a short fund today, what would it look like in comparison to that other short fund?

A modern short fund would likely include a mix of stocks, options, and futures, similar to the original short fund. However, it would incorporate ETFs, which were not available during the 1999-2000 period. The original fund was 100% in S&P 500 index positions, with a focus on index options and futures, and no use of equities.

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Actionable takeawayThe construction of a short fund today would involve a mix of instruments, including ETFs, and would likely be more diversified than the original short fund, which was 100% in S&P 500 index positions.
Q&A

Has the market growth become too dependent on AI spending for continued growth?

The speaker acknowledges that the market's growth has become significantly dependent on AI-related spending, with trillions of dollars being passed between companies. However, they argue that AI itself is here to stay and will continue to improve, but the current spending spree may be unsustainable. The market's current state is seen as being completely driven by AI, with the potential for a pullback if any company underperforms or guides conservatively.

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Actionable takeawayThe market's growth is heavily influenced by AI-related spending, but there is a risk of a pullback if the spending spree becomes unsustainable.
Q&A

What is the expected move for Micron (MU) based on the earnings trade?

The speaker expects a move of around 10 to 12%, with the strike prices adjusted to reflect this. The expected move is based on the current volatility and the potential for a positive earnings report.

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Actionable takeawayThe expected move for Micron (MU) is around 10 to 12%, with the strike prices adjusted to reflect this. The trade is based on the expectation that the stock will move up by the expected amount.
Q&A

What is your favorite stock trade?

The speaker's favorite stock trade is Netflix, as they have recently executed a similar trade and believe in the stock's potential for a short put spread.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker favors short put spreads on Netflix, based on their belief in the stock's downtrend and the potential for profit from the premium.
Q&A

Are the mistakes of the dot-com era being repeated?

The speaker argues that while the specific mistakes may not be repeated, the underlying cyclical nature of market behavior suggests that similar issues will arise in different forms. The speaker believes that the mistakes of the dot-com era are not being repeated because we now have a better understanding of them, but the fundamental patterns of market behavior remain.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker suggests that while the specific mistakes of the dot-com era may not be repeated, the cyclical nature of market behavior implies that similar issues will arise in different forms.
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What is the speaker's opinion on the future of AI?

The speaker believes that AI is not over and that the mistakes from the past will be repeated. They argue that the mistakes are part of a cycle of errors and that the market's rapid movement makes it difficult to predict what will be valuable in the future.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker suggests that AI will continue to be a significant factor in the market, and that investors should be aware of the potential for repeated mistakes and the need to adapt to rapid technological changes.
Q&A

What do you think about SpaceX's butterfly spread being cheap?

The speaker believes that the butterfly spread on SpaceX is not cheap, and in fact, has become more expensive compared to previous periods. The speaker challenges the listener to review past trades and notes that the volatility in SpaceX is still relatively high, which could affect the cost of the butterfly spread.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker suggests that the butterfly spread on SpaceX is more expensive now due to higher volatility, and recommends reviewing past trades for insights.
Q&A

Is the market ignoring risk?

The market may be ignoring traditionally considered risks, such as geopolitical or macroeconomic factors. This could indicate a period of irrationality where markets remain irrational longer than expected. However, there is also a possibility that the market is reacting to stronger underlying factors that are not yet fully realized.

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Actionable takeawayThe market may be ignoring traditional risks, but this could be due to irrationality or stronger underlying factors.
Q&A

What is the speaker's view on the current state of the economy compared to the rest of the world?

The speaker believes the U.S. economy is performing better than the rest of the world, despite some skepticism about its strength. He argues that the market's performance reflects a belief in continued growth, even if this belief is irrational.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker's view suggests that the U.S. economy is outperforming globally, but this may be due to irrational market sentiment rather than actual economic strength.
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What is the current market sentiment regarding the possibility of a recession?

The speaker mentions that Goldman Sachs has reduced the probability of a recession from 25% to 15% in three weeks, suggesting a shift in market sentiment. However, the speaker questions the rationale behind this change and implies that the market may still be ignoring risks.

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Actionable takeawayMarket sentiment regarding recession risk has shifted, but the speaker questions the validity of the change in probability.
Q&A

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Actionable takeawayVisit the Lost Dog platform for details on the new release and crypto rewards, and check the live trade feed starting next week for real-time trading insights.