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Tom Answers "How Do I Trade This Spike In Oil?" | 03.09 | One Lucky Dog LIVE!

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Oil shorting during a rapid upward move

The speaker discusses their experience of shorting oil during a rapid upward move, where they sold at a lower price after the price retraced. The strategy involves identifying a rapid upward move and selling at a lower price after the price retraces. The entry condition is a rapid upward move, and the target is to sell at a lower price after the price retraces. The stop or invalidation is if the price continues to rise without retracing. The time horizon is short-term.

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Strategyshorting during a rapid upward move
Assetcommodity
Time horizonShort-term
Entry / triggerDuring a rapid upward move in oil prices
Target / exitSell at a lower price after the price retraces
Invalidation / stopIf the price continues to rise without retracing
SpeakerBarry
Risks
  • Market volatility
  • Incorrect timing of the trade
  • Liquidity issues
Trade idea

CL selling rallies

The speaker suggests selling rallies in the oil market, particularly using strangles on the CL contract. The idea is based on the belief that oil prices can move rapidly, and the speaker has previously sold premium on the CL contract, expecting the market to revert to a range. The strategy involves taking advantage of the volatility and the liquidity of the oil market, with a focus on short-term price movements.

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Strategyselling rallies
Assetfutures
Expirationnot specified
Time horizonshort-term
Entry / triggerwhen oil prices are rising rapidly
Target / exitnot specified
Invalidation / stopif oil prices continue to rise beyond the initial range
SpeakerBarry
Structure / legs
  • strangles
Risks
  • Market can continue to rise, leading to losses
  • Liquidity issues in the options market
  • Volatility can lead to unexpected price swings
Trade idea

null Wheel Strategy

The wheel strategy is a viable approach for traders looking to capitalize on undervalued stocks while generating income through premium collection. By selling out-of-the-money puts or calls, traders can offset the cost of the stock and potentially profit from price appreciation. This strategy is particularly effective in a market where stocks are cheaper than their previous highs, as it allows traders to take advantage of the potential for recovery while managing risk through the use of options.

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StrategyWheel Strategy
Assetnull
Expirationnull
Time horizonShort-term to medium-term, depending on the expiration of the options.
Entry / triggerBuy stocks that are undervalued and sell out-of-the-money puts or calls to generate income.
Target / exitGenerate income through premium collection while holding a long position in the stock.
Invalidation / stopIf the stock price falls below the put strike price, the trader may be assigned and need to purchase the stock.
SpeakerJimmy
Risks
  • Assignment on short puts
  • Volatility can impact premium income
  • Market downturns may reduce the value of the stock
Trade idea

Yen put selling

The speaker believes that the yen has been range-bound between 63 and 70 for the past four years, making it a suitable candidate for short put strategies. The strategy has been profitable in this environment, but the speaker expresses concern about potential upside volatility. The trade is based on the assumption that the yen will continue to trade within this range, and the premium collected from selling puts will be a source of profit.

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Strategyput selling
Assetcurrency
Time horizonShort-term, with a focus on the range-bound movement
Entry / triggerYen trading within a range of 63 to 70
Target / exitProfit from the premium collected if the yen remains within the range
Invalidation / stopIf the yen breaks below 63 or above 70, the trade may be invalid
SpeakerAdam
Structure / legs
  • short puts at 63 strike
Risks
  • Potential for significant upside volatility
  • If the yen breaks below 63 or above 70, the trade may result in losses
Trade idea

null short premium on gold and silver

The speaker is currently short premium on gold and silver, suggesting that they believe the prices will not rise significantly. The speaker indicates that this strategy is working, and they are making money from it. The speaker also notes that the positions are not related to gold and silver specifically but are part of a broader market strategy. The speaker is cautious about the risks involved and acknowledges that the market could move against their positions.

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Strategyshort premium on gold and silver
Assetnull
Expirationnull
Time horizonshort-term
Entry / triggercurrent market conditions
Target / exitprofit from short premium
Invalidation / stoprisk of market movement against the short position
SpeakerEduardo
Risks
  • Market volatility
  • Potential for significant losses if the short position moves against them
Trade idea

silver shorting silver due to perceived overvaluation

The speaker expresses a belief that silver is overvalued at its current price level, suggesting a short position as a potential trade. They acknowledge that their previous positions in silver were large and painful, indicating a need for caution. The thesis is based on the idea that price extremes can signal potential reversals, and the speaker is looking for a reversal to $84 as a target.

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Strategyshorting silver due to perceived overvaluation
Assetcommodity
Time horizonshort-term
Entry / triggersilver price above $120
Target / exitsilver price reverts to $84
Invalidation / stopsilver price continues to rise above $130
Speakerspeaker
Risks
  • Market volatility
  • Unexpected demand spikes
  • Incorrect price reversal
Trade idea

Trade idea Strangles

The best time to take profits from a strangles trade is when the trader feels it is a good number, rather than waiting for specific expiration dates or volatility levels. The trader should consider rolling the position if volatility remains high, but should not overthink the trade and should move on to the next trade if a profit is achieved.

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StrategyStrangles
Time horizonShort-term, typically within the first 24-45 days of the trade
Entry / triggerWhen the trader feels the trade is performing well
Target / exitTake profits when the trade reaches a desired level
Invalidation / stopIf the trade moves against the trader or if the market conditions change significantly
SpeakerSuzanne
Risks
  • Market volatility
  • Time decay
  • Incorrect assumptions about market behavior
Trade idea

MCL straddle/strangle

The trader is short a straddle on micro CL futures at 71 strike, which expires March 17th. If the market remains within a range, the trader can profit from time decay. If the market moves significantly, the trader may need to roll the position to April, selling a put at a higher strike (e.g., 100) to hedge against potential assignment. This strategy is based on the expectation that the market will not move significantly, allowing the trader to profit from the decay of the options.

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Strategystraddle/strangle
Assetfutures
ExpirationMarch 17th
Time horizonUntil expiration
Entry / triggerMarket remains within a range
Target / exitProfit from time decay and potential assignment
Invalidation / stopMarket moves significantly beyond the range
SpeakerEric
Structure / legs
  • short put at 71 strike
  • short call at 71 strike
  • short put at 100 strike (April expiration)
Risks
  • Assignment if the market moves significantly
  • Time decay may not be sufficient for profit

Insights

Insight

Market Volatility and Trade Execution

The transcript highlights the challenges of trading during extreme market volatility, such as the significant oil price movement. It emphasizes the importance of understanding market dynamics and the need for quick, informed decisions. The speaker's experience with a trade involving oil illustrates the risks and potential rewards of trading during such events.

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Applicable when
  • high volatility
  • unexpected market moves
Limitations
  • Requires real-time data and quick decision-making
  • Not applicable to all market conditions
Insight

Oil Market Volatility and Contract Size

The oil market is described as highly volatile, with significant price movements that can be traded using either the CL (Crude) or MCL (Micro Crude) contracts. The MCL contract is noted to be smaller in size, with a $100 move per dollar of oil, making it more suitable for smaller traders. The speaker emphasizes that the oil market is more liquid and offers more opportunities for trading compared to other markets like stocks or ETFs that track oil.

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Applicable when
  • high volatility
  • liquid markets
  • small contract size
Limitations
  • Requires understanding of contract sizes and market dynamics
  • Not suitable for all traders due to risk levels
Insight

Box Spread Strategy

A box spread is a combination of a call spread and a put spread, either long or short, which can be used as a risk-free strategy. It is typically used by market makers and larger accounts to generate interest income, especially with cash-settled instruments like SPX. The strategy involves locking in a cost or generating cash by selling the box, with the value at expiration being minimal. The effectiveness of the strategy is tied to the interest rate environment, as the box trades at rates close to risk-free rates. This approach is not commonly used by retail traders but is a known method among institutional traders.

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Applicable when
  • cash-settled instruments
  • interest rate environment
  • institutional trading
Limitations
  • Not suitable for retail traders
  • Requires significant capital
  • Dependent on market conditions
Insight

AI and Quantum Computing in Financial Markets

AI algorithms are expected to significantly benefit individual investors by enhancing decision-making processes, making them smarter and more efficient. However, the speaker emphasizes that no algorithm can predict market movements with certainty, especially in the short term. Quantum computing is viewed as a potential game-changer for solving complex problems, but its application to market prediction remains uncertain. The speaker acknowledges the potential of quantum computing but remains skeptical about its ability to predict market behavior in a meaningful way.

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Applicable when
  • AI in trading
  • Quantum computing applications
  • Market prediction
Limitations
  • Uncertainty about AI's predictive capabilities
  • Lack of empirical evidence on quantum computing's impact on markets
Insight

The Importance of Work Ethic Over Intelligence

The speaker emphasizes that success in trading and business is not primarily about being smarter than others but about outworking everyone else. This insight highlights that while intelligence is valuable, consistent effort and dedication are the key factors for long-term success in the financial markets. The speaker notes that AI will be a helpful tool, but it cannot replace the need for hard work and discipline.

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Applicable when
  • trading
  • business success
  • financial markets
Limitations
  • This applies more to long-term success rather than short-term gains
  • May not account for market volatility or external factors like luck
Insight

Market Commentary on the Wheel Strategy

The wheel strategy involves selling puts or calls to generate income while holding a long position in stocks. The strategy is particularly useful when stocks are undervalued, as it allows traders to capitalize on the potential for price appreciation while collecting premiums. The strategy requires careful selection of stocks and the appropriate strike prices for the options, with a focus on managing risk and capital allocation.

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Applicable when
  • undervalued stocks
  • market downturns
  • low volatility
Limitations
  • Requires sufficient capital for margin
  • Potential for assignment on short puts
  • Volatility can impact premium income
Insight

Put Selling Strategy for the Yen

The speaker discusses the effectiveness of short put strategies for the yen, noting that it has been a profitable approach over the past four years. The strategy involves selling puts around the 63 strike level, with the speaker expressing concern about potential upside volatility. The yen's range-bound movement between 63 and 70 is highlighted as a key factor in the strategy's success. The speaker also suggests that calls could be an alternative, but expresses greater concern about an explosive move to the upside.

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Applicable when
  • yen trading range between 63 and 70
  • low volatility environment
Limitations
  • Potential for significant upside volatility
  • Not applicable in trending or volatile markets
Insight

War's Impact on Global Markets

The speaker discusses the potential long-term impact of war on global markets, particularly the S&P, oil, gold, and silver. The speaker argues that prolonged conflict could lead to economic instability and affect the United States' global status. The speaker also highlights the risks of military involvement, suggesting that the outcomes of such actions are uncertain and could result in significant losses.

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Applicable when
  • prolonged_conflict
  • military_involvement
Limitations
  • Uncertainty about the duration and outcome of the conflict
  • Potential for misinformation and political motivations affecting decisions
Insight

Price Extremes and Market Movements

The speaker emphasizes the importance of identifying price extremes and market movements as key indicators for trading decisions. They suggest that when markets are moving significantly, it's an opportunity to act, but also to be cautious about where prices are trading relative to their historical norms. This approach is based on the idea that extreme price movements can signal potential turning points or continued trends.

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Applicable when
  • price extremes
  • market movements
  • historical price levels
Limitations
  • Does not account for unexpected macroeconomic events
  • Requires accurate interpretation of market signals
Insight

Learning Through Action in Trading

The speaker emphasizes that learning about trading and financial markets is best achieved through active participation rather than passive observation. This insight suggests that hands-on experience is crucial for developing practical skills in trading, as it allows individuals to apply strategies, understand market dynamics, and refine decision-making processes. The applicable conditions include a commitment to continuous learning and the willingness to engage in real-world trading scenarios. Limitations include the potential for financial loss and the need for disciplined risk management.

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Applicable when
  • commitment to continuous learning
  • willingness to engage in real-world trading scenarios
Limitations
  • potential for financial loss
  • need for disciplined risk management
Insight

Self-Advocacy in the Workplace

The speaker emphasizes the importance of self-advocacy, particularly for employees nearing retirement age, suggesting that they should proactively negotiate their worth with their managers. This includes explaining their value to the company and requesting a raise. The speaker also highlights the importance of continuous learning to stay relevant in the job market.

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Applicable when
  • Employees nearing retirement age
  • Employees in fast-changing industries
Limitations
  • The advice is more applicable to employees in industries with high demand for new skills
  • The effectiveness may vary based on company culture and management style
Insight

Straddle and Strangle Strategy

A straddle involves buying or selling both a call and a put with the same strike price and expiration, while a strangle involves different strike prices. The strategy can be rolled up by adjusting the strike prices to manage risk and potential profit. This approach is useful when the market is expected to remain within a certain range, allowing the trader to profit from time decay and potentially benefit from volatility.

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Applicable when
  • market range-bound conditions
  • volatility expectations
Limitations
  • Requires market to remain within a range
  • Potential for assignment if the market moves significantly
Insight

Market Volatility and Risk Perception

The VIX cash index, which measures market volatility, showed a significant decline despite a broader market downturn, indicating that investors are not in a crash mode. This suggests that while the market is experiencing some volatility, the overall sentiment is not indicative of a major crash. The VIX's behavior can be a useful indicator for traders to gauge market risk and potential for further movement.

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Applicable when
  • market volatility
  • risk perception
  • VIX behavior
Limitations
  • The VIX can be influenced by various factors beyond immediate market conditions
  • Short-term volatility does not necessarily predict long-term trends

Q&A

Q&A

How should one approach the oil market after a significant move?

The speaker discusses the importance of understanding market dynamics and making quick, informed decisions during extreme volatility. They also mention the need to monitor market conditions and adjust strategies accordingly.

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Actionable takeawayMonitor market conditions and adjust strategies based on real-time data and quick decision-making.
Q&A

How do you approach trading the oil market?

The speaker suggests trading the oil market using either the CL or MCL contracts, with a preference for CL due to its liquidity. They recommend avoiding ETFs and stocks that track oil, as they are less efficient. The speaker also mentions that they are a seller of rallies and a contrarian, suggesting that traders should consider the market's volatility and liquidity when making decisions.

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Actionable takeawayTraders should consider using the CL or MCL contracts for oil trading, focusing on short-term volatility and liquidity, while avoiding ETFs and stocks that track oil.
Q&A

Do you think that AI algorithms will alter market trading over the next few years?

AI algorithms will alter the way people do research, learn, structure trades, monitor risk, build portfolios, and overall make trading more efficient and disciplined. However, the impact on zero DTE options trades is not explicitly discussed.

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Actionable takeawayAI is expected to enhance trading practices across various aspects, but its specific impact on zero DTE options trades remains unclear.
Q&A

Can quantum computing solve math problems that have never been solved before?

Quantum computing is believed to have the potential to solve complex math problems that traditional computing methods cannot, due to its ability to process information in fundamentally different ways. However, the speaker acknowledges that this is a hypothesis and the actual capabilities of quantum computing in this regard are still under exploration.

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Actionable takeawayQuantum computing may offer solutions to complex problems, but its practical applications and effectiveness are still being explored.
Q&A

What is one mistake that you made early on in your career that actually helped you become successful later?

The speaker mentions creating a simple spreadsheet to analyze options, which led to profitable trades and sparked their interest in trading. This mistake, though initially seen as naive, was a pivotal moment that led them down a path of success.

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Actionable takeawayA simple, early mistake can lead to significant opportunities if it sparks a deeper interest and commitment to learning.
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Why would you use the wheel strategy when volatility is getting pumped up?

The wheel strategy is used to gain experience and take advantage of undervalued stocks. Even with increased volatility, the strategy can be effective if the trader is willing to manage the risks associated with short puts and calls.

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Actionable takeawayThe wheel strategy can be used to generate income through premium collection while holding a long position in stocks, even in a high-volatility environment.
Q&A

At what point does an iron condor become a synthetic strangle?

An iron condor becomes a synthetic strangle when the strikes are wide enough that the trade is primarily for outlier protection and capital efficiency. The speaker suggests that if the strikes are more than 15 or 20 points apart, it is considered a synthetic strangle from the start. The exact point is subjective, but the speaker notes that a 25 delta trade is typically a synthetic strangle.

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Actionable takeawayThe width of the strikes determines whether an iron condor is considered a synthetic strangle. A wide spread with a focus on outlier protection indicates a synthetic strangle.
Q&A

Why are Tom and Scott so bearish on gold and silver? Are they in denial?

Eduardo responds that Tom and Scott were bearish on gold and silver during a previous period when silver had a significant run. However, he clarifies that their current positions are short premium on gold and silver, which are working well. He also notes that the positions are not specifically related to gold and silver but are part of a broader market strategy. Eduardo acknowledges that the market could move against their positions, but he believes the current strategy is profitable.

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Actionable takeawayEduardo's current strategy involves short premium on gold and silver, which he believes is working well. However, he acknowledges the risks involved and the potential for market movement against his positions.
Q&A

Is it possible and cash efficient to buy VVIX shares or other instruments to hedge against a major downturn in the US markets?

The speaker states that buying VVIX shares is not cash efficient and that VVIX is not a tradable instrument. They suggest alternatives such as selling premium in major indices like SPY, which have an inverse correlation with volatility. The speaker also advises against paying record prices for volatility, emphasizing that such strategies have rarely worked out historically.

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Actionable takeawayAvoid buying VVIX or similar instruments at record prices; consider selling premium in major indices as a more efficient hedge.
Q&A

What's next for oil? 80 or 120?

The speaker states that oil is currently around 100, with 80 being 38% and 120 being 62%. They believe the real risk is to the downside, with a potential move into the mid to low 70s by April expiration. The speaker also mentions that the market's sentiment is heavily influenced by emotions and that the biggest risk trade is that everyone is long oil.

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Actionable takeawayThe speaker suggests that the market's sentiment is heavily influenced by emotions and that the biggest risk trade is that everyone is long oil.
Q&A

When is the best time to take profits from a strangles trade?

The best time to take profits from a strangles trade is when the trader feels it is a good number, rather than waiting for specific expiration dates or volatility levels. The trader should consider rolling the position if volatility remains high, but should not overthink the trade and should move on to the next trade if a profit is achieved.

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Actionable takeawayTraders should take profits when they feel the trade is performing well, rather than waiting for specific market conditions.
Q&A

Should I let my short straddle expire or roll it?

If the market remains within a range, letting the straddle expire is a viable option. However, if the market moves significantly, rolling the position to a higher strike (e.g., 100) can help hedge against assignment and profit from time decay.

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Actionable takeawayRoll the position to a higher strike if the market moves significantly to hedge against assignment.
Q&A

What is the current state of the market?

The market has experienced a rally, with some stocks showing significant movements. The VIX cash index has declined, indicating that the market is not in a crash mode. However, there is still volatility, and traders should be cautious.

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Actionable takeawayThe market is showing signs of recovery, but traders should remain cautious due to ongoing volatility.
Q&A

What are the days and times of the trading show?

The trading show is scheduled from Monday to Thursday of the week, from 9:00 to 10:00 Central Time.

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Actionable takeawayThe show is held on weekdays from 9:00 to 10:00 Central Time.