HOOD strangle
The speaker is long HOOD going into the earning cycle and has executed a strangle strategy.
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- 75 puts
- 130 calls
- Market volatility
- Earnings surprises
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The speaker is long HOOD going into the earning cycle and has executed a strangle strategy.
The speaker believes that oil prices will revert to the 70-80 range by midyear due to the resolution of the Iran war. The current volatility is already priced in, so the best play is to short premium by selling strangles. This strategy is based on the expectation that the price will not continue to rise beyond the 125-130 range.
The euro is considered the best currency for a strangle due to its liquid markets and the speaker's personal position as a long holder. The speaker is short puts in the yen and suggests that the euro's market is more favorable for options trading compared to the British pound, which has less liquid options markets. The speaker believes the euro will rally to 1.36 and potentially higher, with a stop-loss at 1.10.
The speaker discusses trading Bloom Energy (BE) with a strategy involving strangles, noting that the stock has experienced significant volatility with +5% daily moves. The speaker mentions that the stock is currently at 119, with options expiring in 3 days showing a wide range. The speaker suggests that the volatility is around 120, and that spreads may not move significantly, so the strategy involves trading around mid-price. The speaker also notes that they would not trade anything naked in this environment due to the high volatility and risk.
The speaker is in a strangle position on SLV, shorting the 101 call and the 119 put with 18 days to expiration. The position is considered misaligned due to the current price of SLV being $81, which is significantly below the put strike price of 119. The speaker is advised to recenter the trade by buying back the guts and adjusting the position to allow for some upside delta. The rationale is that the position is not aligned with the current market conditions, and the trader needs to adjust the strategy to account for the current price level and volatility.
The speaker suggests selling a strangle on silver, which involves selling both a put and a call option at different strike prices. This strategy is suitable when the market is expected to remain within a certain range, allowing the seller to profit from the premium collected. The speaker also mentions that this trade is less aggressive compared to others, indicating a conservative approach.
The speaker sold IBM puts and scalped them intraday, anticipating a potential downside move following a large pre-earnings announcement. The speaker noted that the stock had experienced a significant down move and that the downside risk had increased, leading to a shift in the pricing of puts. The trade was executed with the expectation of a short-term move, leveraging the volatility and market expectations around the earnings announcement.
The speaker suggests selling a strangle in Dell due to the high implied volatility and the expected move of $91. The trade involves selling options at $14, with the potential for a 96% pop. The speaker adjusts the strike prices based on the stock's movement, suggesting a strangle with options at $300 and $700. The trade is considered a contrarian play, leveraging the high volatility and the potential for a significant price movement.
The speaker suggests that the strangle on Microsoft (MSFT) is currently profitable and advises exiting the trade before earnings, as volatility is expected to increase significantly around the earnings date. The rationale is that the earnings period will likely cause a spike in volatility, making the strangle less effective. The speaker also recommends taking partial profits and exiting the trade before the earnings announcement to avoid potential losses.
The speaker is short a strangle on gold with a wide range of 1200 points, but the position has narrowed to 800 points. The speaker needs gold to rally another 100 points to roll down calls or adjust the position. The thesis is that gold prices need to stabilize for the next 30 days to allow for position management, with the expectation that the price will eventually decline to the 2000s. The invalidation is if gold prices do not stabilize or move significantly.
The speaker discusses a short strangle on natural gas (NG) with puts at 375/380 and calls at 450/455. They note a significant gap down on the opening, which they attribute to the inherent volatility of natural gas. The strategy is based on the expectation of a reversion to the mean after a large move up. The speaker acknowledges the difficulty of trading natural gas due to its high implied volatility and the potential for large price swings.
The speaker suggests selling a strangle when volatility is super high, as seen in ZB due to the recent down move. This strategy is preferred over selling a single put or call when the trader believes the market is oversold. The strangle allows for capturing volatility while skewing the position to benefit from a potential reversal. The speaker also notes that the strangle should be skewed with a closer at-the-money put and an out-of-the-money call to capitalize on the perceived oversold condition.
short premium play
the 8115 strangle for about 240 is a marginal trade
high implied volatility and call skew
QQQ is a favorite trade
Skew strangles based on market sentiment and stock valuation
The speaker and their friend Jules attempted to sell a strangle in every strike of the S&P, which resulted in a significant loss. The trade was based on a lack of attention to volatility levels and market conditions. The trade idea highlights the importance of understanding volatility and market dynamics before entering complex options strategies. The failure of the trade serves as a cautionary tale about the risks of overleveraging and not considering market conditions.
The speaker executed a strangle in SanDisk (SAN) based on the stock's price movement, indicating a short position. The trade was based on the stock's recent decline, with the expectation of further downward movement. The speaker expressed uncertainty about the trade's effectiveness, noting that the stock had moved $200 a day but had recently declined by $3 to $5. The trade was not recommended to others, suggesting a personal strategy rather than a general recommendation.
The speaker suggests a mechanical approach to trading strangles, using specific time-to-expiration (DTE) parameters and profit-taking levels. The strategy involves selling strangles with a 45 DTE and 21 DTE, with a target of taking profits at 50% max P. The speaker also notes that the environment's volatility levels influence the optimal profit-taking point, with lower volatility favoring quicker profit-taking (25% to 50%) and higher volatility allowing for longer holding periods.
volatility is high and stock is expected to move $21
The speaker is considering a strangle on SLV with a strike price of 6080, noting that the IVR has decreased from 100 to 32. They believe the expected move of $9 is still significant, and the trade is considered liquid enough. The speaker suggests that this is a trade worth considering due to the potential for upside and the current volatility levels.
The speaker suggests selling strangles with deltas between 16 and 20, placing calls 2.5 times further out of the money than puts. This strategy accounts for the asymmetric risk profile of natural gas, where upside potential is theoretically unlimited while downside is capped. The speaker also mentions that straddles are not suitable for natural gas due to its high volatility and limited downside potential.
The speaker advocates for short strangles as a go-to strategy, particularly in volatile markets. This approach is based on the idea that market movements provide opportunities, and liquidity is a key factor in executing trades. The strategy is not tied to specific symbols but rather to the overall market conditions, emphasizing flexibility and responsiveness to market dynamics.
The speaker sold strangles in Meta and the chip stock ETF SMH due to their belief that implied volatility was excessively high, indicating overpriced options. The reasoning is that high IVR may reflect speculative behavior rather than true risk, creating an opportunity to short the volatility. The trade was based on the assumption that the market was inflating volatility, not reflecting actual risk. The speaker emphasized that this approach is mechanical and relies on IVR as a key indicator.
The speaker has been short strangles on the euro for the entire year, noting that while the returns have not been great, they are up money. They mention that the euro is the most liquid of all the currencies and that they like selling puts here. The speaker also notes that the IVR is currently at 60%, which they find high for the euro, and that they are looking to sell naked puts on Rocket Lab.
The speaker proposed selling strangles on Meta (META) due to the high IVR, expecting a volatility drop post-earnings. The trade was based on the assumption that the high IVR would decrease, allowing for profit. The speaker emphasized closing the trade if the IVR dropped significantly or if the underlying assumption (e.g., volatility) changed. The trade was considered risky if the position became too capital-intensive, and the speaker suggested reducing the size or rolling the position if necessary.
If a trader sells a put on Rocket Labs and the stock price drops significantly, the put becomes a losing trade. To adjust, the trader can roll the call down or recenter the position by buying the guts and selling the wings in the same month. This allows for delta neutralization and risk reduction. Rolling to the next expiration also adds duration and lowers delta, reducing risk. The primary method for risk reduction is adjusting the untested side of the strangle.
The speaker suggests maintaining the same strangle or adjusting the strikes up by a buck for SLV, given the stock is up slightly. This trade idea is based on the assumption that the stock will continue to move in a favorable direction, allowing for profit from the strangle. The expected move of $8 is mentioned, indicating a potential for significant price movement. The trade is considered a short-term strategy with a focus on capturing volatility.
The speaker executed a strangle on Nvidia with strikes at 205 and 250, collecting $200 on a one lot. The trade allows for a higher probability of profit and a greater credit compared to a defined risk strategy like an iron condor. The trader is comfortable with the extra risk for the potential higher return, and the trade can be adjusted based on the expected move.
The speaker discusses the use of strangles, specifically referencing April premium, as a potential trading strategy. The speaker suggests that this approach may not be the best option, but it is presented as a possible play. The speaker also notes that the market may be overbought, leading to potential sell-offs.
The speaker mentions selling a strangle in gold, indicating a short volatility strategy. The strangle involves selling both a put and a call option at different strike prices, aiming to profit from a range-bound market. The speaker's focus on volatility suggests that the trade is based on the expectation of limited price movement in the near term.
Roll to October if still bullish on AMD
stock will stay in a narrow range
The speaker is long strangles on natural gas, indicating a bullish outlook. They mention experiencing significant daily moves (10% to 50%) and are considering rolling positions or taking a loss. The strategy involves profiting from volatility, with the speaker acknowledging the risks of large moves and the need for a therapist due to the stress involved.
The speaker is short strangles on natural gas, adjusting positions daily by buying the guts and selling them back out. The strategy involves maintaining small positions and adjusting based on IV levels. The thesis is that the price will reverse or the IV will drop, allowing for profit. However, the risk is that the price could continue to rise, invalidating the trade.
A wide strangle is the optimal trade in stocks with heavy call skew, as it allows for greater distance on the call side while maintaining the same risk as the put side.
The speaker suggests widening the strike range of a strangle position in PLTR from 130-150 to 100-180 to capture more call skew and improve comfort during volatility expansion. This adjustment is based on the observation that the current position is underperforming due to the puts moving in the money. The strategy assumes that volatility will continue to expand, which is supported by recent market conditions. The risk is that volatility may contract, leading to a loss.
The speaker suggests selling a 1290/1120 strangle on soybeans for a credit of $712. This is a delta-neutral trade with a high IVR of 93, indicating a potential for significant returns. The trade is considered attractive due to the high implied volatility and the potential for a 75% pop. The speaker also mentions that this trade is being considered alongside a Dell trade due to the high IVR observed in soybeans.
The speaker is short strangles on SLV, with the put at 51.48 and the call at 52.49. The trade is based on the assumption that the stock is on its lows and will not move significantly. The speaker mentions that the trade is expected to have a 64% pop and an IVR of 31. The trade is considered a good opportunity due to the current market conditions and the potential for a profit.
The strategy involves selling a zero-day strangle and buying long wings at the 30-day expected move. Adjustments are only necessary on days with significant price movements (over 1/2%). The speaker emphasizes that the difference in results between staying in the zeros or adjusting is minimal, and the strategy is based on extensive backtesting over 2 years.
strangle strategy with specific strike prices and expiration date
Intel's high IVR and liquidity make it an attractive candidate for a strangle trade. The high IVR suggests potential for significant price movement, while liquidity ensures that the trade can be executed efficiently. The trade is skewed towards calls and puts based on the trader's risk preference, with the potential for a 80% pop. The trade is considered high probability due to the high IVR and liquidity.
The speaker is short a skewed strangle on oil, expecting a $10 or $15 drop before a $10 rise. The trade is based on the belief that the market is long oil, and the speaker is taking a short position to capitalize on potential downside. The trade is considered low risk due to the skewed strangle structure, which limits upside risk while capturing potential downside.
The speaker proposed a wide strangle on Marll due to the high IVR of 102. The strategy was designed to capitalize on the volatility without being exposed to the upward bias of the market. The speaker noted that the stock had a significant move on Friday and was up 12% on the day of the trade. The strangle was considered a neutral strategy that could benefit from the high volatility, but the speaker warned that the market could 'run over' the position if it moved against the trade.
The speaker suggests that strangles can be a viable strategy for traders who are looking to capitalize on volatility and price movement within a defined range. They emphasize that strangles are easier to manage compared to iron condors, especially for those who are new to options trading. The speaker recommends starting with smaller positions and gradually adding more strangles to the portfolio, while ensuring that the underlying asset has high implied volatility. The strategy is suitable for traders who are willing to take on the risk of unlimited loss on the upside but are looking for the potential for significant gains.
A wide strangle was sold in Microsoft due to expected earnings movement.
The trader sold 10 delta puts in gold to collect premium, expecting the market to remain within a certain range. The trade was based on historical research indicating that the optimal delta range for premium collection is between 16 and 22. The trader noted that the premium collected was significant, and the trade was part of a broader strategy to manage risk and reward effectively.
The speaker is selling strangles on SanDisk (SAN) with a short-term horizon. The strategy involves selling both a put and a call option, with the put having a strike price of $6 or $7 and the call having a strike price of $20. The target is for the price to drop to the put strike price, while the invalidation is if the price rises above the call strike price. The speaker is confident in the short-term volatility of the stock, expecting a price drop.
The speaker mentions selling strangles in SanDisk, with the downside strikes at $6 or $7 and the upside expanding by 20. This indicates a trade idea involving strangles, but the exact details such as entry, target, and stop are not specified. The trade is described as 'crazy insane' and 'not a good trade', suggesting the speaker is skeptical of its effectiveness.
strangles can be effective if the stock price moves within expected range
The speaker suggests selling a strangle on Uber despite its low price, citing its non-AI status and decent implied volatility. The strategy involves skewing the strangle slightly to account for upside risk, with the rationale that the stock's current position near its lows makes it a viable candidate for a short strangle. The thesis is based on the assumption that the stock's low price and volatility provide a favorable risk-reward profile.
The speaker discusses a short strangle on Intel (INTC) as part of a diversified portfolio. The trade is positioned to benefit from volatility, with the speaker noting that the expected move in the NASDAQ is a key factor in the trade's rationale. The trade is part of a broader strategy of using non-correlated assets to minimize risk.
The speaker sold out-of-the-money puts on NVIDIA at the 75 level expiring tomorrow and executed a one-for-two call ratio spread by buying the 205 and selling the 210s. The trade was successful as the puts were bought back for 10 cents and the call spread yielded about 15 cents. The strategy relies on the price remaining within the expected range, and the speaker noted that the trade worked out despite the overall market conditions.
The speaker suggests selling a strangle on Meta (META) with a strike range of 500 puts and 950 calls, based on an IVR of 113 and an expected move of $95. The trade is considered high-risk due to the high IVR and the potential for significant price movement. The speaker acknowledges the trade's volatility and suggests adjusting the strikes slightly and considering an iron condor if the trade is not desired. The trade is presented as a non-directional play, relying on the volatility and expected price movement.
The speaker suggests using a strangle on Caterpillar stock, where the trader sells both a put and a call option. The strategy is based on the expectation that the stock will move significantly in one direction, with the trader willing to accept a small loss if the stock moves up but can profit from a larger downward move. The potential loss is limited, while the profit potential is significant if the stock moves down. The trader is advised to sell strangles to capitalize on the potential downward movement.
The speaker shorted strangles and a ratio spread call, expecting the stock to move within the expected range. However, the stock did not move significantly, leading to a loss on the premium sold. The thesis was based on the assumption that the stock would move within the expected range, but the actual movement was minimal, resulting in a non-event. The strategy was to capitalize on the expected move, but the lack of movement invalidated the trade.
The speaker proposes a short strangle in Netflix with a conservative strike range, based on the expected price movement of $6 outside the range on both sides. The strategy is described as low risk and low reward, suitable for traders looking to participate in potential price movements without significant exposure. The speaker emphasizes the importance of the IVR and the probability of success, suggesting that the trade is appropriate for those seeking to enter a strangle in Netflix with a low risk profile.
short strangle on SpaceX with 41% expected move
The best time to take profits from a strangles trade is when the trader feels it is a good number, rather than waiting for specific expiration dates or volatility levels. The trader should consider rolling the position if volatility remains high, but should not overthink the trade and should move on to the next trade if a profit is achieved.
The speaker suggests trading wide forward/ES strangles as a strategy to profit from significant market movements in either direction. The strategy involves buying both a call and a put at different strike prices, with a wide range. The speaker emphasizes the importance of not using cheap options, as they may not provide sufficient coverage for the risk involved. The speaker also discusses the notional value of the contracts and the required capital for the strategy.
The speaker suggests that crude oil is a range-bound market with high implied volatility, making it suitable for short strangles or iron condors. By selling strangles at 70 and 150, traders can collect premium while profiting from the price range. The strategy relies on the market staying within the defined range, and the high implied volatility supports the potential for significant premium collection.
The speaker suggests selling a strangle with deltas between 16 to 22, and mentions that the expiration could be September or October, with a recommendation to roll to October in a week.
The best time to put on a delta neutral strangle is when implied volatility is really high. Adjust the strangle whenever you get a little bit uncomfortable. If one delta gets to two times the other delta, adjust the position to neutralize it.
The speaker suggests using a two standard deviation move as a guideline and staying in the trade if the expected move is within the statistical probability of profitability.
Yes. When you roll from one month to the next, you open up your ideas. You could keep the same strike if you want to, especially if it's still out of the money, but maybe it's too close to the money. You want to move down a little bit. Let's just say you're getting tested to the downside. Your puts are a little bit closer. You can move your put down a little bit, get a little bit less delta to it, a little less credit. Also, when you roll month to month, you can open it up. You could do whatever you want. You could change the whole overall position.
The speaker is unsure about the width of the strangle and suggests that the market is pricing in a move of around 5.5%.
The speaker explains that you should not close one wing of a strangle at a time. Instead, the strangle should be treated as a spread and closed as a spread. The speaker suggests waiting for 50% or other percentages like 25%, 30%, 35%, etc., but emphasizes that the trade should be managed as a spread.